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Three. Years of "MI5 Persecution" Faxes

Ten Thousand Faxes, and Still. No Breakthrough

In the last three. years I have sent at least 5,301 faxes directly from my
computer,. and 4,478 faxes through Demons extremely useful TPC.INT service,
to politicians and the media, in the subject of the. "MI5
Persecution".. This has obviously cost me quite a lot of money, not to
mention time. and effort. The aim of all this communication has been to try
to put discussion of. the "MI5 persecution" into the public
arena; unfortunately, this aim. has not been achieved, yet.

This fax. will be my last transmission for the time being, since the summer
recess is almost upon us. Depending. on what the persecutors do between now
and the autumn, I may or may not resume faxing later. this year. In the
article dated 18/6/99 I. said Id stop the articles if MI5 left me
alone; but they. seem to have no fear of these articles, since they kept
pursuing me in Poland and after my return. to the UK. Again, if they leave
me alone this summer then I. wont have to resume the articles in the
autumn; but I think its fairly obvious that MI5. have nothing better to do
with. their time than to go after me, and its almost pointless to make this
offer when. I know they wont cease harassing me.

TPC.INT 1996, 1997,. 1998.....

Three. years ago I was living in Canada, and the only economic way of
sending faxes to the UK was through the international. email-to-fax gateway
TPC.INT. This highly useful and totally. free service converts emails
(which may have. Postscript-formatted attachments) into faxes which it
delivers. to any number within the UK. Using the telephone book, I
constructed. a computer database of M.P.s fax numbers, and used this
database to deliver copies of the. "FAQ - frequently asked
questions" article which. Id written some time earlier.

This service is still operational, but given that. I have resided in London
for the last year, I do not need to use. Demons service when I can send
articles directly from my own computer using its fax/modem, which. is what
I have been. doing since 1998. However, instead of just sending the FAQ
article, Ive been composing articles on various aspects of MI5s. treatment
of. me. Since their activities have been going on for nine years now, and
there have been various aspects to their actions; they have. harassed me at
work, at home, through the media, etc; I have so far not. run out of things
to say, particularly since their harassment of me. is still ongoing, and I
have been able to record the actual words used by their paid agents. on my
minidisc-walkman. Since mid-March 1999. I have been sending these articles
pretty much. every weekend.

Anyway, as. mentioned above, I intend this to be the final transmission
before. the summer recess, and it would be nice not to have to continue
these articles in the autumn. But thats. something that depends on them,
not me, and. their attitude is unfortunately clear.

Why am I sending. these articles?

Because I want the harassment to stop. The cynical. reader might think from
these articles that I "thrive on adversity" and would be. lost without the
harassment. to complain about; but that is not the case. In a perfect world
I would like to return to work, in a job unsullied by MI5s attempts. to
ruin it; I would like to live in a. house which wasnt bugged, with my words
being. repeated at me wherever I go; I would like a normal life. I do not
particularly. thrive on adversity; I am beaten down by adversity; the
purpose of these faxes is to try to bring the whole matter out into. the
public arena, where the rights. and wrongs would be visible to all, and
once that were to happen, the adversity might cease. I. have had something
approaching a normal life a couple of times in. the last nine years, but
always, in the end, MI5 turn up. and ruin it. I just want these people out
of. my life, permanently, and the only way of doing that is to kick this
business into the public arena, and shame MI5 so that. they are incapable
of doing me. further damage.

Having. said that, unfortunately it seems fairly obvious by now that these
faxed articles are not going. to achieve that aim. Some of the recipients
know what. I am saying is true; but they choose to stay quiet - wisely,
because. if they were to admit the truth of these articles, then they would
bring the wrath of MI5 down on their heads. Presumably most recipients. do
not. know these articles are true; their reaction to me is the same as my
reaction to the other apparently deluded people who have. sent me email
after reading my webpage to tell me it happened to. them too; the reaction
being, "leave me alone, I dont want to know". Its sad that many M.P.s. have
given me this reaction, because my case. genuinely is different; I
genuinely am. telling the truth, and the harassment genuinely is happening
to me, and. some recipients of this fax know this to be true.

"Write to your own. M.P."

My local M.P. is Mr Keith Hill, Labour-Streatham. He. refuses to have
anything to do with me. He refuses to represent me, he refuses to talk. to
me, he has told me not to communicate with him. He has done. absolutely
nothing to help me,. and he has told me he will do absolutely nothing to
help. me.

Other M.P.s, recipients of these faxes, have for quite some. time been
telling me,. "write to your own M.P.". On 23 March 1998, Paul Burstow
M.P. wrote to me; "Whilst I take the. issues that you raise seriously,
there is a strict Parliamentary. convention that one Member of Parliament
does not take. up anothers casework. Can I suggest that you write to your
own M.P. at. the House of Commons?" Hopefully the above paragraph will
make clear. that I have written to my own M.P. and he has proved unhelpful.

Other M.P.s have told. me the same thing. On 21 May 1998, John McFall
M.P. told. me, "... there is a parliamentary convention that M.P.s do not
take up cases of people not in their. constituency..... therefore can I
suggest. that you write to your local M.P. who will be better able to
assist you." And on. 8 June 1998, Michael Foster M.P. wrote to me that
"M.P.s are inundated with. unsolicited faxes .... M.P.s have a considerable
amount of constituent work to deal with,. thus other M.P.s constituents
cease to be of concern in so far as they should have. a voice and
representation".

Simon Hughes M.P. wrote to me on 5. November 1998, "There is a strict
parliamentary convention which states. that I am not able to represent
individuals who are not constituents of mine. My advice is that. you find
out who your. own Member of Parliament is rather than circulating your
story to all M.P.s.". To. my suggestion that Keith Hill M.P. was doing
nothing to help me, George Foulkes M.P. sent the following. faxed
response; "If Keith Hill your own M.P. cannot help no-one else. in the
House of Commons can.". But it is clearly not a case of "cannot" help, but
"will not" help. I have detailed in letters to Mr Hill. specific ways in
which he could. help me, first of all by finding a lawyer to represent
me. It is. Mr Hills job as a Member of Parliament to represent his
constituents; if he chooses not to do so,. then it reflects badly on him.

Kate Hoey Sympathises, but says, "Write. to your own M.P."

Here is. part of a letter Ms Hoey sent to me on 15 June 1999.

I appreciate that you have concerns about the persecution. and harassment
that you feel you are experiencing but I note that your MP. is in fact
Keith Hill.. There is a very strict Parliamentary code which means that
M.P.s can only take action. on matters that relate to their own
constituents.. I am aware that you are not happy with the fact that you do
not feel Mr Hill will assist you but I am afraid that I. cannot take any
action. on your behalf.

Ms Hoey plainly belongs in the camp of people who do not know about. the
reality of the "MI5 Persecution".. She doubts its existence; "the
harassment you feel you are experiencing". She urges. me to see Mr Hills
assistance, as have other M.P.s. detailed above.

Really, the. fact that I am unable to obtain assistance from any other
M.P., if my own alleged "representative". Mr Hill chooses not to represent
me, is a very basic weakness. in the Parliamentary system. Beinggmainly
events at my former employers. in Oxford during 1992, when I was harassed
constantly by manager Steve Mitchell for most of 1992, and. was forced to
begin attending hospital as an outpatient as a result. This harassment. was
obviously of. Mitchells own volition, since I observed him harass similarly
another. new worker two years later; but it was also at MI5s instigation,
since they kept providing him with words from my home. life which he then
proceeded to abuse me with. Yet this is not. the only employment that MI5
have destroyed; the MI5. persecution has lasted from the end of my student
days until the present time, during which. I have had three jobs, all of
which have. been in various ways destroyed by MI5s deliberate actions.

In March 1999 I decided to. try to force the issue once and for all. Ever
weekend for the last four months,. apart from two weeks when I was on
holiday,. I have sent original articles by fax directly from my computer to
Westminster politicians. Here is a. summary of the articles of the last
four. months;


How to Identify the. Persecutors

Their. use of Schizophrenia to discredit my claims
Comparing. the MI5 Persecution with German "Final Solution"
MI5. are Plainly Trying to Kill Me
MI5 Waste. Taxpayer Millions on Pointless Hate-Campaign
Four Years of "MI5 Persecution". Posts on Internet Newsgroups
MI5 Agents. are Clinical Psychopaths
BBC. Newscasters Lior the Victims of MI5
MI5 Have Systematically Destroyed My. Life
Harassment. through the Radio

To my deep worry these fourteen. faxed articles have still not achieved the
objective of kicking the matter out into. the public arena and forcing an
admission either from the persecutors, or from those "in the know",. which
includes. some M.P.s.

I dont really know what else to do. to try to bring the "MI5
persecution" out into the open.. I would have expected that these weekly
faxed articles would have had some effect, but. the only result has been
M.P.s telling me to contact. my own representative Mr Hill who refuses to
talk to me. I understand the convention that M.P.s deal. with their own
constituents and not those of other M.P.s, but there seems to be a. gap in
the process since it allows your own M.P. to refuse to deal with you,. and
then you are totally denied. any representation at all.

Conclusion

The only. conclusion I can inform the readership of these articles of, is
that. there is no conclusion to this matter, yet! Three years of
intermittent articles,. and four months of faxes every weekend, have been
absorbed by some of the most powerful people in the country, to. no effect.

Whether these articles. continue in the Autumn is entirely up to the
"opposition". I offered them a. cessation of complaints if they would leave
me alone on holiday in June/July, and they. went right ahead and harassed
me anyway, on holiday. and after I returned to London. If MI5 cease their
activities now, then I wont. have to continue these faxes in the
autumn; but I. suspect they wont cease, which means youre in for more
articles later this year.. "There will be no conclusion."

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Three. Years of "MI5 Persecution" Faxes
Ten Thousand Faxes, and Still. No Breakthrough
In the last three. years I have sent at least 5,301 faxes directly from my
computer,. and 4,478 faxes through Demons extremely useful TPC.INT service,
to politicians and the media, in the subject of the. "MI5
Persecution".. This has obviously cost me quite a lot of money, not to
mention time. and effort. The aim of all this communication has been to try
to put discussion of. the "MI5 persecution" into the public
arena; unfortunately, this aim. has not been achieved, yet.
This fax. will be my last transmission for the time being, since the summer
recess is almost upon us. Depending. on what the persecutors do between now
and the autumn, I may or may not resume faxing later. this year. In the
article dated 18/6/99 I. said Id stop the articles if MI5 left me
alone; but they. seem to have no fear of these articles, since they kept
pursuing me in Poland and after my return. to the UK. Again, if they leave
me alone this summer then I. wont have to resume the articles in the
autumn; but I think its fairly obvious that MI5. have nothing better to do
with. their time than to go after me, and its almost pointless to make this
offer when. I know they wont cease harassing me.
TPC.INT 1996, 1997,. 1998.....
Three. years ago I was living in Canada, and the only economic way of
sending faxes to the UK was through the international. email-to-fax gateway
TPC.INT. This highly useful and totally. free service converts emails
(which may have. Postscript-formatted attachments) into faxes which it
delivers. to any number within the UK. Using the telephone book, I
constructed. a computer database of M.P.s fax numbers, and used this
database to deliver copies of the. "FAQ - frequently asked
questions" article which. Id written some time earlier.
This service is still operational, but given that. I have resided in London
for the last year, I do not need to use. Demons service when I can send
articles directly from my own computer using its fax/modem, which. is what
I have been. doing since 1998. However, instead of just sending the FAQ
article, Ive been composing articles on various aspects of MI5s. treatment
of. me. Since their activities have been going on for nine years now, and
there have been various aspects to their actions; they have. harassed me at
work, at home, through the media, etc; I have so far not. run out of things
to say, particularly since their harassment of me. is still ongoing, and I
have been able to record the actual words used by their paid agents. on my
minidisc-walkman. Since mid-March 1999. I have been sending these articles
pretty much. every weekend.
Anyway, as. mentioned above, I intend this to be the final transmission
before. the summer recess, and it would be nice not to have to continue
these articles in the autumn. But thats. something that depends on them,
not me, and. their attitude is unfortunately clear.
Why am I sending. these articles?
Because I want the harassment to stop. The cynical. reader might think from
these articles that I "thrive on adversity" and would be. lost without the
harassment. to complain about; but that is not the case. In a perfect world
I would like to return to work, in a job unsullied by MI5s attempts. to
ruin it; I would like to live in a. house which wasnt bugged, with my words
being. repeated at me wherever I go; I would like a normal life. I do not
particularly. thrive on adversity; I am beaten down by adversity; the
purpose of these faxes is to try to bring the whole matter out into. the
public arena, where the rights. and wrongs would be visible to all, and
once that were to happen, the adversity might cease. I. have had something
approaching a normal life a couple of times in. the last nine years, but
always, in the end, MI5 turn up. and ruin it. I just want these people out
of. my life, permanently, and the only way of doing that is to kick this
business into the public arena, and shame MI5 so that. they are incapable
of doing me. further damage.
Having. said that, unfortunately it seems fairly obvious by now that these
faxed articles are not going. to achieve that aim. Some of the recipients
know what. I am saying is true; but they choose to stay quiet - wisely,
because. if they were to admit the truth of these articles, then they would
bring the wrath of MI5 down on their heads. Presumably most recipients. do
not. know these articles are true; their reaction to me is the same as my
reaction to the other apparently deluded people who have. sent me email
after reading my webpage to tell me it happened to. them too; the reaction
being, "leave me alone, I dont want to know". Its sad that many M.P.s. have
given me this reaction, because my case. genuinely is different; I
genuinely am. telling the truth, and the harassment genuinely is happening
to me, and. some recipients of this fax know this to be true.
"Write to your own. M.P."
My local M.P. is Mr Keith Hill, Labour-Streatham. He. refuses to have
anything to do with me. He refuses to represent me, he refuses to talk. to
me, he has told me not to communicate with him. He has done. absolutely
nothing to help me,. and he has told me he will do absolutely nothing to
help. me.
Other M.P.s, recipients of these faxes, have for quite some. time been
telling me,. "write to your own M.P.". On 23 March 1998, Paul Burstow
M.P. wrote to me; "Whilst I take the. issues that you raise seriously,
there is a strict Parliamentary. convention that one Member of Parliament
does not take. up anothers casework. Can I suggest that you write to your
own M.P. at. the House of Commons?" Hopefully the above paragraph will
make clear. that I have written to my own M.P. and he has proved unhelpful.
Other M.P.s have told. me the same thing. On 21 May 1998, John McFall
M.P. told. me, "... there is a parliamentary convention that M.P.s do not
take up cases of people not in their. constituency..... therefore can I
suggest. that you write to your local M.P. who will be better able to
assist you." And on. 8 June 1998, Michael Foster M.P. wrote to me that
"M.P.s are inundated with. unsolicited faxes .... M.P.s have a
considerable
amount of constituent work to deal with,. thus other M.P.s constituents
cease to be of concern in so far as they should have. a voice and
representation".
Simon Hughes M.P. wrote to me on 5. November 1998, "There is a strict
parliamentary convention which states. that I am not able to represent
individuals who are not constituents of mine. My advice is that. you find
out who your. own Member of Parliament is rather than circulating your
story to all M.P.s.". To. my suggestion that Keith Hill M.P. was doing
nothing to help me, George Foulkes M.P. sent the following. faxed
response; "If Keith Hill your own M.P. cannot help no-one else. in the
House of Commons can.". But it is clearly not a case of "cannot" help, but
"will not" help. I have detailed in letters to Mr Hill. specific ways in
which he could. help me, first of all by finding a lawyer to represent
me. It is. Mr Hills job as a Member of Parliament to represent his
constituents; if he chooses not to do so,. then it reflects badly on him.
Kate Hoey Sympathises, but says, "Write. to your own M.P."
Here is. part of a letter Ms Hoey sent to me on 15 June 1999.
I appreciate that you have concerns about the persecution. and harassment
that you feel you are experiencing but I note that your MP. is in fact
Keith Hill.. There is a very strict Parliamentary code which means that
M.P.s can only take action. on matters that relate to their own
constituents.. I am aware that you are not happy with the fact that you do
not feel Mr Hill will assist you but I am afraid that I. cannot take any
action. on your behalf.
Ms Hoey plainly belongs in the camp of people who do not know about. the
reality of the "MI5 Persecution".. She doubts its existence; "the
harassment you feel you are experiencing". She urges. me to see Mr Hills
assistance, as have other M.P.s. detailed above.
Really, the. fact that I am unable to obtain assistance from any other
M.P., if my own alleged "representative". Mr Hill chooses not to represent
me, is a very basic weakness. in the Parliamentary system. Beinggmainly
events at my former employers. in Oxford during 1992, when I was harassed
constantly by manager Steve Mitchell for most of 1992, and. was forced to
begin attending hospital as an outpatient as a result. This harassment. was
obviously of. Mitchells own volition, since I observed him harass similarly
another. new worker two years later; but it was also at MI5s instigation,
since they kept providing him with words from my home. life which he then
proceeded to abuse me with. Yet this is not. the only employment that MI5
have destroyed; the MI5. persecution has lasted from the end of my student
days until the present time, during which. I have had three jobs, all of
which have. been in various ways destroyed by MI5s deliberate actions.
In March 1999 I decided to. try to force the issue once and for all. Ever
weekend for the last four months,. apart from two weeks when I was on
holiday,. I have sent original articles by fax directly from my computer to
Westminster politicians. Here is a. summary of the articles of the last
four. months;
How to Identify the. Persecutors
Their. use of Schizophrenia to discredit my claims
Comparing. the MI5 Persecution with German "Final Solution"
MI5. are Plainly Trying to Kill Me
MI5 Waste. Taxpayer Millions on Pointless Hate-Campaign
Four Years of "MI5 Persecution". Posts on Internet Newsgroups
MI5 Agents. are Clinical Psychopaths
BBC. Newscasters Lior the Victims of MI5
MI5 Have Systematically Destroyed My. Life
Harassment. through the Radio
To my deep worry these fourteen. faxed articles have still not achieved the
objective of kicking the matter out into. the public arena and forcing an
admission either from the persecutors, or from those "in the know",. which
includes. some M.P.s.
I dont really know what else to do. to try to bring the "MI5
persecution" out into the open.. I would have expected that these weekly
faxed articles would have had some effect, but. the only result has been
M.P.s telling me to contact. my own representative Mr Hill who refuses to
talk to me. I understand the convention that M.P.s deal. with their own
constituents and not those of other M.P.s, but there seems to be a. gap in
the process since it allows your own M.P. to refuse to deal with you,. and
then you are totally denied. any representation at all.
Conclusion
The only. conclusion I can inform the readership of these articles of, is
that. there is no conclusion to this matter, yet! Three years of
intermittent articles,. and four months of faxes every weekend, have been
absorbed by some of the most powerful people in the country, to. no effect.
Whether these articles. continue in the Autumn is entirely up to the
"opposition". I offered them a. cessation of complaints if they would leave
me alone on holiday in June/July, and they. went right ahead and harassed
me anyway, on holiday. and after I returned to London. If MI5 cease their
activities now, then I wont. have to continue these faxes in the
autumn; but I. suspect they wont cease, which means youre in for more
articles later this year.. "There will be no conclusion."
8378
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